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“Plattdeutsch” is closer to Dutch language dialects than to “Hochdeutsch”.
Then why is it called “German”?

Here’s an example of “Plattdeutsch” on Youtube.

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    Be aware that the terminology regarding this is very confusing. Hochdeutsch can refer to (1) the main variety of the current German language, (2) one of the two main historical/linguistic branches of the Germanic languages spoken in Germany (the other being Niederdeutsch). Platt can be just another word for local dialect, but can also be the same as Plattdeutsch, i.e., another word for Niederdeutsch.
    – Wrzlprmft
    Jun 8, 2014 at 10:31
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    For a language to be closely related to dutch is hardly an argument against being called deutsch.
    – Carsten S
    Jun 8, 2014 at 11:35

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We are talking here on the geographic development of German dialects over time. This did not match political development of Central Europe countries.

From a linguist's view the German language is divided into Low German (Niederdeutsch, syn. Plattdüütsch) and High German (Hochdeutsch) along the Uerdingen Line, or the Benrath Line respectively:

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Wikimedia:Uerdinen Line

We can see that Dutch is entriely included in the Low German language area. We can therefore say that Dutch is a dialect of Low German.

Interestingly the contemporary standard German ("Hochdeutsch") was not developed from Low German but from High German dialects. Today the standard German is spoken more often in the northern half of Germany, where Low German coexists as a second language in the regional dialects.

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  • Entirely? There is that pointy thing called Limburg down there where they definitely say "ich". May 7, 2015 at 14:43
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"Dutch" is a fairly similar language to "German" (Hochdeutsch) and Plattdeutsch is somewhere between the two.

Plattdeutsch therefore is similar enough to Hochdeutsch as to be part of the same language, given that they are part of the same political entity. It is NOT like the difference between English and French in Canada.

The reason no one calls "Dutch" a "German" language is because the Netherlands and Germany are different political entities.

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  • "Het Nederlands is een West-Germaanse taal". Furthermore it is no conicidence that the English name is Dutch (closest English language term to Deutsch).
    – Takkat
    Jun 8, 2014 at 14:00
  • @Takkat: That's my (American) view. But it would be considered "nationalistic" by some in America.
    – Tom Au
    Jun 8, 2014 at 14:01
  • Everybody will agree on that. Dutch people say they speak "Nederlands", German people say they speak "Niederländisch" or more often "Holländisch". It's the language roots which are so close. Dutch is much closer to Low German than e.g. Swiss German is. It is more or less coincidental that we all do not speak Low German today.
    – Takkat
    Jun 8, 2014 at 14:05
  • Tom Au: Afaik "Dutch" in English was used to refer to the language of both NL and Germany till the 16th century. The unity by Burgundian rule (pragmatic sanction) and later the Dutch Republic made the political situation different enough to set the two apart. Political entities before the emergence of nation states were generally weak, specially in the NL and Germany with the only weakly coherent Holy Roman Empire. Nov 4, 2015 at 15:24
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    Nobody quoting "a language is a dialect with an army and a navy". That makes me sad! ;)
    – user21173
    May 1, 2016 at 20:56

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