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I'm sure this is a misunderstanding.
Two points:
The "-e"-ending appears to be a relict from times when German still formed the Dative with a suffix. It's retained in phrases like "im Jahre xxxx", in quotations like "dem Manne kann geholfen werden". Perfectly correct, if not extremely common.
Secondly: Where does it say feminine on the LEO page?
Edit: ...
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Your confusion is effected through the plural form: der Sinn, die Sinne.
In diesem Sinne is only one Sinn, not many Sinne.
The dative of der Sinn is built up with dem and not der as in feminine nouns.
So it is correct to say In diesem Sinne.
(Regarding the -e take notice of Mac's answer)
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Both are reflexive verbs that can also be used in a non-reflexive way.
Reflexive verbs are more common in German than in English (like "enjoy yourself").
"Ich bin mir sicher" works with or without the "mir", but "Ich kann mir vorstellen" does not, because the reflexive version "sich (etwas) vorstellen" (=> imagine something) has a different meaning than ...
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I would understand this sentence in this way:
Lass die Toten dem Tod.
Try to get back to life, leave your sorrow to the (anthropomorphic) death.
The line is taken from a poem written by Anton Noder (1864-1936) about the All Souls' Day.
Allerseelentag
Einmal im Jahr
Entzünd' auch ich die Allerseelenkerzen
Vor dem Altar
Der Toten, die ich ...
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It means "the dead to Death", or slightly longer "The dead should belong to Death", i.e., the narrator argues that grief for the dead should be treated wisely so it does not take the grieving as hostages forever. It is natural to grief for the dead, but one must step away from the grief for prolonged stretches of time too, so that one can actually notice ...
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According to Wikipedia this is called "Dativ-e":
Der Dativ Singular wurde früher bei Hauptwörtern, die im Genitiv
Singular auf -es enden können, also bei stark gebeugten männlichen und
sächlichen Hauptwörtern, mit der Endung -e gekennzeichnet. Diese Form
ist heute veraltet und wird in der Gegenwartssprache üblicherweise
nicht mehr gesetzt. ...
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The rule is: if you use dative plural you have to append an -n to the nominative plural form:
die Monate / den Monaten
die Eier / den Eiern
die Bäume / den Bäumen
There are two exceptions to this rule:
If the nominative plural already ends with an -n, it remains the same:
die Eltern / den Eltern
die Hunnen / den Hunnen
die Mädchen / den Mädchen
If ...
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Ich danke dir.
is the only correct version. Danken takes the dative case. You will never hear otherwise.
I would recommend to forget about the concept of direct and indirect object; or better, you should realize that the definitions of direct and indirect object in German and English are not identical. Neither is the use. So just because some verb ...
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The sentence is correct; the construction "jemandem ist schlecht" requires the dative case, meaning someone feels nauseated.
This is comparable to "jemandem ist warm/kalt/langweilig"; this also requires the dative case.
If you used the nominative case here, saying "jemand ist schlecht", this would shift the meaning to someone is bad (at something).
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“Ich habe meine Hände gewaschen” sounds unusual, but not wrong. Regarding the broken leg, I can imagine saying something like “Ich hab’s Bein gebrochen” (= habe das), but “Ich habe mein Bein gebrochen” is too active, as if it had been intentional.
“Das Baby hat mir den Finger gebissen” is wrong; it should be “Das Baby hat mir in den Finger gebissen”. ...
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In der geschriebenen Sprache ist der besitzanzeigende Genitiv stets der Konstruktion von + Dativ vorzuziehen, da letzteres als schlechter Stil angesehen wird. (1) In der gesprochenen Sprache hingegen wird die Dativ-Konstruktion mit von häufiger verwendet als der eigentlich korrekte Genitiv. So wird man folgende oder ähnliche Sätze oft hören:
Hast du ...
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When in is used to give a place or a time as answers to questions with wann or wo you must use the Dative. When it is used to give a direction (as in the answer to the question with wohin) it stands with Accusative.
In the question Wer macht Parties in der Freizeit? the expression in der Freizeit specifies the time, so the Dative is used.
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The rule is very simple: the dative plural of nouns almost always ends in "-n".
There are very few exceptions like:
ich gebe es den Opas, den Omas.
Also, a few words of English origin have their dative plural in "-s" :
Aus den Parks, aus den Wracks, auf den Decks.
But these exceptions are statistically negligible. The robust rule is:
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Emanuel already mentions that Ich danke dir is the correct way of saying I thank you.
I just want to tell you how you can simply answer this question with help of some online tools. Unfortunately, only a few sources mention the necessary information explicitly and, if they do, this information is sometimes a little hidden.
Starting with Duden, you'll find ...
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One way to look at this, start with these two English alternatives:
What did he say to you?
What did he tell you?
So,
Was hat er zu Ihnen gesagt?
nicely corresponds to our first English alternative which used "to say".
There is an equivalent in German for "to tell", and not only in Platt (vertellen) but also in Hochdeutsch (erzählen). However, most ...
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Perhaps I should have been clearer in my Answer to part 1 of your Question.
Not only are the two sentences
Was hat er Ihnen gesagt?
and
Was hat er zu Ihnen gesagt?
both grammatically correct, they also do not differ in meaning. I had to strain really hard to find a situation where the zu might carry extra information content, but other than such an ...
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Looking at the numerous meanings and usages of the preposition "zu" we can only give an incomplete answer here to cover some special cases where we have a loose rule indeed.
Whenever we use "zu" we also indicate some spacial correlation, a direction, or other defined relations.
Der Kellner beugte sich zu dem Gast herab.
Alle Besucher sind zu dem Fest ...
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Ich danke Dir
This is always correct, and "Ich danke Dich" is always incorrect. The receiver of something is always in Dativ.
Note that "Dativ" comes from Latin do, dare, dedi, datus, which means primarily to give. So Dativ is literally the case you use to describe the act of giving to someone.
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Laut Duden ist beides möglich: jemandem oder jemand. Ich bevorzuge in deinem Beispiel jemand:
Ich schlage jemand anderem vor, mich mit ihm zu treffen.
Oder:
Ich schlage jemand anderem in den Bauch. // nur ein Beispiel :)
In anderen Situationen gefällt mir jemandem besser:
Ich gab den Rest einfach jemandem.
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In this case "die Frauen" is the object because it actually means
Es ist den Frauen schlecht.
This kind of consruction is commonly used when expressing (subjective, usually negative) feeling e.g.:
Dem Mädchen ist schlecht.
Dem Kind ist langweilig.
Mir ist komisch/ übel/ nicht gut.
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Wenn sich 2 Ingenieure darüber unterhalten, warum die Turbine kaputt ist, und später spricht der Betriebsdirektor mit einem davon, und fragt diesen, was die Meinung des anderen sei, dann wird er fragen:
Was hat er ihnen gesagt?
Und nicht 'zu ihnen', außer es ginge darum, dass der andere Ingenieur zu jenem etwas anderes, als zum Betriebsdirektor gesagt ...
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