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I've noticed that the Bayern accent, or at least the München and Ansbach accents, have a hard roll of the 'R's. In addition, the DW newscast has the occasional R-roll. Yet the two other regions that I am familiar with, Berlin and North Rhine-Westphalia, do not [rather, the speakers that I know from that region emphatically do not -- they've tried to break me of the habit].

My question is, how common is R-rolling and is it pleasing or irritating to most native Germans?

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    de.wikipedia.org/wiki/R#Aussprache_im_Deutschen second paragraph – Carsten S Sep 13 '16 at 13:57
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    Swiss-Germans are also famous for their rolling R – tofro Sep 13 '16 at 15:00
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    I can't understand people who are irritated by someone talking with an accent. Just enjoy the diversity! – user568 Sep 13 '16 at 15:17
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    In Ansbach they do not speak Bavarian! – Jan Sep 13 '16 at 20:25
  • In some regions in Hessen the R is tounge-rolled, while in other regions it is not. Near Herborn, the R is even pronounced like in English. – Thorsten Dittmar Sep 14 '16 at 10:05
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I'm from Northern Germany. I hardly pronounce the /r/ at all, instead I either lengthen the previous vowel (as in Arbeit: /a:beit/) or pronounce it almost as /x/ (the 'ch' sound), especially at the beginning of a word. Even in depressiv I would do that, as /depxesi:f/

In my own experience it is mainly the Southern dialects, including Austrian, which roll the 'r', I don't think I've ever come across it in a Northern speaker. I would find it slightly irritating, as it sounds grating to me, and putting too much emphasis on a sound that I almost not pronounce at all.

[The phonetic transcriptions are of course not accurate and only approximations]

  • Do you mean "Zäpfchen-R" (/ʁ⁠/)? I've never heard it pronounced /x/ (though I also haven't been to the North very much). – Owen Sep 13 '16 at 16:32
  • @Owen Not quite. A bit like it, but only very faint. Almost like an aspiration. I once said romanistisch and someone misheard it as humanistisch, Very short /x/. – Oliver Mason Sep 13 '16 at 16:34
  • I'm from Bavaria and I would say /a:beit/, but /depressiv/. And I also never heard the /x/ thing. – palsch Sep 13 '16 at 18:23
  • I am from Salzburg, where a rolling "r" is uncommon. However, Upper Austria (especially Braunau, Vöcklabruck and Schärding) - quite close to Salzburg - use the rolling "r" in common. Note that this difference does not have to do anything with words like Arbeit, where the "r" is never spoken, /a:beit/. It is rather words like rollen, depressiv and the like, where the "r" cannot be suppressed. – rexkogitans Sep 14 '16 at 8:03
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    @Owen No, it's different from the "Zäpfchen-R". In Cologne for example, warte would almost be pronounced as wachte. – Thorsten Dittmar Sep 14 '16 at 10:03
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I am from Düsseldorf (North Rhine-Westphalia, NRW) and I hear it very strongly when I hear someone who is from Franconia ("Franken", Northern Bavaria). Here in NRW we just roll it with certain words such as:

DepRessiv

or

Rastplatz

It's not pleasing to hear guys from Franconia. Because the R seems to sound so dominant when they speak. Because they roll it in every Word.

The regular Use is okay for me.

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    (I'm from Franconia) Hey, we don't roll every 'r'! For example, I would also find it annoying to hear A-R-beit. Btw., Franconian dialect is not the same everywhere in Franconia. People from Nuremberg seem to convert tkp to dgb and the other way around, while people from Wuerzburg just smoothen everything. :-) – palsch Sep 13 '16 at 18:26
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    Hi palsch, sorry. I had any intentions to harm you, but you have to admit: The People In Franconia are rolling the R very often. :) – Marty_in_a_Box Sep 13 '16 at 18:33
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    Perhaps I made the comment sound too angry. Sorry! ( ;-) ) I don't feel harmed, and yes, I have to admit that we roll Rs very often. – palsch Sep 13 '16 at 18:36
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    You did not. I didn't want to make it harsh ether. See? That's the reason i like this community. It's about consens. Thanks for your reply :) – Marty_in_a_Box Sep 14 '16 at 1:45
  • I'm from Wuerzburg and I must say that the most people I know roll the 'r' pretty often. Even those I know, that used to live in the northern and moved to Franconia quickly adapted the rolled 'r', also the "convert" from tkp to dgb. But it doesn't mind me, neither do I know somebody that feels unpleasant by the rolled 'r'. – KhorneHoly Sep 14 '16 at 10:43
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Another region where the people roll the 'R' is the southern and eastern part of the Upper Lusatia (Oberlausitz). There's an example in the German Wikipedia, if you are curious.

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