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So when using a modal verb in the perfect tense, I've notice two different types of constructions:

1) Ich habe arbeiten müssen.
2) Ich muss gearbeitet haben.

It seems like the first means "I have had to work" and the second one is "I must have worked" but I'm not 100% sure.

Also, can these dual constructions be extended to the other modals? For example, here's a pair of sentences I made up:

1) Ich habe es am Montag machen können.
2) Ich kann es am Montag gemacht haben.

The first is supposed to be "I was able to do it on Monday" and the second one I guess would have to mean something like "I am able to have done it on Monday".

But #2 seems wrong to me somehow, even though it's identical in syntax to the "muss" example above. I almost want to make it subjunctive:

Ich könnte es am Montag gemacht haben.

to say, "I could have done it on Monday", but then I don't know why kann needs to be subjunctive to feel correct when I didn't need it with müssen.

If anyone can help me out with this grammar, I'd very much appreciate it!

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All these examples are correct, and the difference in meaning is as you suspected.

Here are some realistic uses:

Wie ist es ihnen im Lager ergangen?

Ich habe hart arbeiten müssen.

Wie hat er das nur geschafft?

Er muss die ganze Nacht gearbeitet haben.

Also, there is no necessity to use the subjunctive here, the construction is independent of verb mood. The longer variations may feel strange to you because thy're rather rare, and in fact even translators sometimes get them confused nowadays, but they're real and useful constructions.

  • Thanks! That makes it a bit more clear - I guess each of the modals have a certain idiomatic usage when used with the second construction. – user1782677 Nov 24 '16 at 23:05

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