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According to Heidegger there is an existential bond between Dasein and Stimmung. I wonder if there exist an etymological link between the word Stimmung and the word Sein.

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    I heavily doubt so. – πάντα ῥεῖ Feb 23 at 13:31
  • Welcome to German.SE. Are you able to link & quote a source where Heidegger says so (about the bond)? – Shegit Brahm Feb 24 at 8:14
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    I am as far from a philosopher as a person can be. But looking for "attunement" lead me to "Bestimmtsein", which rather could be understood as a definition, a concretion, what makes up an entity. If we could have the original phrase it would make things easier, i think. But "Stimmung" as a more ephemeral state of mind or view may simply not be the right term here ... – a_donda Mar 2 at 20:59
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    @a_donda Look at taradajko.org/get/books/sein_und_zeit.pdf.Quote: § 29. Das Da-sein als Befindlichkeit. Was wir ontologisch mit dem Titel Befindlichkeit anzeigen, ist ontiscb das Bekannteste und Alltäglichste: die Stimmung, das Gestimmtsein. Vor aller Psychologie der Stimmungen, die zudem noch völlig brach liegt, gilt es, dieses Phänomen als fundamentales Existenzial zu sehen und in seiner Struktur zu umreißen. – Paul Frost Mar 3 at 11:35
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"Stimmung" derives from "Stimme", not from "Sein".

https://www.dwds.de/wb/Stimmung

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    thut mir nicht leid, aber ich glaub das stimmt nicht. – vectory Feb 29 at 19:00
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This should be difficult to decide, if the etymology of Stimm- is uncertain.


DWDS / Wolfgang Pfeifer at least isn't sure; Wiktionary instead agrees with Kroonen (fig. 1) linking several words for "mouth", which Pfeifer suggests merely as "möglich" (see the link to DWDS in @fdb's answer). Kroonen even links mouth itself, assuming a zero-grade *(st)m- would be an impossible cluster and therefore elided to *m-, thus also Latin mentum "chin".

Kroonen further aduces that a relation to PIE *steH- were "impossible in view of the Germanic evidence for e-vocalism" (viz stehen, stand).

One PIE root glossed "to cut" is mentioned in wiktionary and DWDS, but not by Kroonen.

Fig. 1 (Guus Kroonen, Etymologic Dictionary of Proto-Germanic, 2013, Brill: Leiden - Boston)


For sake of the argument, let's assume your hypothesis were correct, though.

There is a good comparison in system

From Middle French sisteme, systeme (modern French système (“system”)), or directly from its etymon Late Latin systēma (“harmony; musical scale; set of celestial objects; set of troops; system”), from Ancient Greek σύστημα (sústēma, “musical scale; organized body; whole made of several parts or members”), from σῠν- (sun-, prefix meaning ‘with, together’) + ἵστημι (hístēmi, “to stand”) (from Proto-Indo-European *steh₂- (“to stand (up)”)) + -μᾰ (-ma, suffix forming neuter nouns denoting the result of, a particular instance of, or the object of an action).

[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/system bold emphasis mine]

this would be *sem- + *steH-, but only through Greek. *steH- is one of the more significant roots. It should be really hard to say whether it had anything to do with sein, ist, PIE *Hesti-, *Hes-, and similar.


DWDS again treats v. stimmen shortly:

stimmen Vb. ‘zusammenpassen, richtig sein, übereinstimmen, seine Stimme für jmdn., etw. abgeben’, mhd. stimmen ‘eine Stimme hören lassen, rufen, mit einer Stimme versehen, erfüllen, anstimmen, nennen, festsetzen, abschätzen’ und ahd. gistimnen ‘zusammen-, anstimmen’ (8. Jh.); in der Musik ‘die Höhe der einzelnen Töne kontrollieren’ (16. Jh.), ‘jmdn. in eine bestimmte Gemütslage versetzen’ (18. Jh.)

It's far from obvious how this should relate to "mouth" or "to cut", although it can be construed as a week verb to Stimme (vox), but the oldest sense being music related is notable.

Assuming conflation (or merger) of different etymons seems preferable in order to maintain your hypothesis while accepting Kroonen's. Whether it's possible, or even likely is another matter.


I want to add several tangents towards such a possibility, but this answer is already long enough and the shear amount of theory necessary to make it work is overwhelming for the time being.

Suffice to say that Heidegger was likely not making an argument from etymology, however a good argument towards it.


Addendum: If you are still interested, I can only recommend to investigate the roots next to "mouth" in Kroonen's dictionary very carefully. Just for example:

When searching mouth in Kroonen, several other terms appear beforehand that draw attention. In no particular order:

  • For one, there is Vormundschaft ("OHG munt 'protection'") which have little to do with MHG Mund "mouth", apparently, but should reconstruct PGem *mundo, f. "hand", PIE *mh2-nt-eh2- "often compared to Lat. manus (cf. De Vaan 2008: 363-4), but in spite of the obvious semantic match, the deeper link with the root *meh2- 'to beckon' has not been established." Nevertheless he goes on to adduce further evidence to construe the root, and for a suffix *-nt-.

  • The lemma *mundo also quoted Faroese munda "'to be able to grasp'" which is curious because "to be able" appears elsewhere, too, as there are

    • a) "OFri. mota pret.-pres. 'to be allowed, to be able, to have to'" under *motan "'w[eak] v[erb] 'to approach, concede to(?)', with MHG müssen, En must, from PIE *mod-;

    • b) PGem *mugan pret.-pres. 'to be able' with mögen, may, etc.

    I have admittedly no idea what a preterite-presence is, if not a paradox. The Frisian etymon, where g frequently elided, may be a conflation with muga, moga (< *mugan), imho by the way.

    (a) *motan is right next to, and references, *motjan "to meet". I recall "to meet a decision", which seems notable in view of [ab]stimmen

Perhaps consider other tangents as well: vox, dico, dedicate, devote, vote, atmosphere, tenor, einstellen (einsetzen, zusammenstellen, consider), decide, fällen, Gefühl, convict, convince, etc., etc.; at your own risk, so to speak.

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  • Thanks a lot for your laborious and extensive answer. I do know that Heidegger does not make an argument from etymology. I was just curious to know about a possible etymological link. – Esmail Roudgarian Mar 2 at 17:46

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