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Are there any German nonsense poems (Jabberwocky)?

I am starting a community Wiki here for collecting examples / authors of Unsinnspoesie or poetry using at least sometimes nonsensical words and expressions. Caveat: one might argue that speaking of &...
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Why "alle Tale" and not "alle Täler"?

The German language has a variety of nouns that carry two plural forms. There is Land, Länder, Lande, Tuch, Tücher, Tuche, and Wort, Wörter, Worte. The first plural form collects several independent ...
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Are there any German nonsense poems (Jabberwocky)?

A very literal answer: there's a German translation of Jabberwocky called Der Jammerwoch! Es brillig war.  Die schlichte Toven Wirrten und wimmelten in Waben; Und aller-mümsige Burggoven Die ...
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What does "mildre" mean?

Leaving out an "e" from adjectives is a common way of keeping rhythm in German poetry, as the following proverbial wisdoms demonstrate: Auch wenn er keine Früchte kriegt - der grünre Baum ...
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Why is there no article in "Auf grüner Linde"?

One of the most obvious reasons (to me) why Heine left out the article there is verse meter. The poem follows a 4-3-4-3 pattern of emphasised syllables per line. Thus, auf grüner Linde sitzt und singt ...
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What does "mildre" mean?

Is it a poetic way to write "milder"? Yes, it means mildere and is poetically shortcutted.
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Are there any German nonsense poems (Jabberwocky)?

German mixed with nonsense words This is what the OP has asked about: texts where normal meaningful German words are mixed with meaningless nonsense words. There seem to be very few German texts of ...
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Why "alle Tale" and not "alle Täler"?

I'll try to answer a bit more generally. In a language that has declension classes, or different ways to form the plural, it is to be expected that nouns occasionally show variation in how they form ...
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Why "alle Tale" and not "alle Täler"?

Adelung, in his dictionary from 1801, already states the plural als Thäler (Tal was spelled Thal then) but also mentions, that the German bible translation frequently uses Thale instead. I guess that ...
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“Besagen” and “sagen” in a poetic context

The usage of the word "besagen" is wrong in this context. "Besagen" more or less means something like "to testify"."to bear witness". "... wie die Quellen besagen..."
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what is the meaning of "gier und gar" in poetry?

I guess (also from the "bissig und bös" question) the poem you're translating is Yvan Goll's "Der Panama-Kanal". "gier und gar" actually is not an idiom in German, and a ...
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Usage of "nimmer" merely poetic?

It is quite an everyday word in Southern Germany and Austria. https://www.dwds.de/wb/nimmer
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Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm - doch was ist mit dem späten Wurm?

Wie wäre es mit Wer zu früh kommt, der muss länger warten. in Anlehnung and das inzwischen ja schon reichlich abgenudelte Wer zu spät kommt, den bestraft das Leben (wieso eigentlich das Leben?). ...
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"Die du" in Beethoven's An die Hoffnung

Die is Nominativ case here. Yes, du is referring to Hoffnung. The whole thing is an invocation to the personified hope (Hoffnung), which could also be written as "Du, die du so gern in heil'gen ...
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Word order in “Der Mann, der nicht Musik hat in ihm selbst”

The original Shakespeare text is The man that hath no music in himself, Nor is not mov’d with concord of sweet sounds, Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils; The motions of his spirit ...
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Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm - doch was ist mit dem späten Wurm?

Eine mir sehr bekannte Antwort auf den "frühen Wurm" lautet: Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm... ...aber erst die zweite Maus bekommt den Käse! (in Bezug auf Mausefallen mit Käse als Köder)
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Are there any German nonsense poems (Jabberwocky)?

Christian Morgenstern - Galgendichtung z. B. Das große Lalula' Kroklokwafzi? Semememi! Seiokrontro - prafriplo: Bifzi, bafzi; hulalemi: quasti basti bo... Lalu lalu lalu lalu la! Hontraruru ...
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Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm - doch was ist mit dem späten Wurm?

Ein etwas kindischer Spruch: Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Was kann man daran sehen? Für den Wurm wär's besser gewesen, später aufzustehen.
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Usage of "nimmer" merely poetic?

There is this saying "nie und nimmer" to express that there is not the slightest possibility of something happening. As in Sie wird nie und nimmer so viel essen können. She will never ever be able ...
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Word order in “Der Mann, der nicht Musik hat in ihm selbst”

You have to take the meter into account. Der M'ann, der n'icht Mus'ik hat 'in ihm s'elbst preserves the original meter, the blank verse, which means alternating stressed and unstressed syllables, ...
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What is "dein nicht achten" in Goethe's Prometheus?

Your analysis is correct. In modern German you would say "und dich nicht zu achten". I do not think there is any loss of information, though there is possibly a loss of poetic gravitas.
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Are there any German nonsense poems (Jabberwocky)?

There is quite a lot by the dada-ism movement. At the forefront there is Kurt Schwitters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Schwitters), two of his nonsense poems are 'Anna Blume' which is in legible ...
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Translation of poem

It is key to separate this mess a little. Let's start with the second phrase: Es geziemt, da der Meister selber schweigt, daß die für ihn Dir nun danke, der Du oft seither gezeigt, daß in Deinem Sinn ...
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How should this sentence with the seemingly critical words "willst" and "doch" be interpreted?

This is just a case of a bad transcript. Below is the whole verse as it is transcribed here, which is obviously full of incorrect punctuation. It seems like they just mindlessly put a full stop at the ...
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von Günderrode poem problem

Directly preceding the part you quoted, Violetta posits: Und traurig wird die Blume dann vergehen Muß sie sich so von dir verlassen sehen! (source) The reply by Narziß seeks to refute this. When ...
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Es ward, dass sein der Menschen reinste pflegen

The full text can be found here, and the interesting part is: es ward, daß sein der Menschen Reinste pflegen, herab von einer Engelschar gebracht; Note, that Reinste is uppercase here indicating use ...
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Are "ä", "ö" and "ü" considered as rhyming with other non-umlauted vowels?

There is a historical reason for this. At the time of classical German literature, that is to say, in the late 18th century, the most prestigious pronunciations of standard German did not have rounded ...
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Poetry; breaking the rules?

Poetry does not break the rules. What you need to take on board is that there are lots of different forms of German, both in time (diachronically) and in place (dialect variation). A lot of German ...
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Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm - doch was ist mit dem späten Wurm?

Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Wer keine Würmer frühstücken will, kann noch im Bett bleiben.
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Pausensetzung in Gedicht

Nun, es sind ja sog. harte Enjambements, die hier wie zuvor bei anderen Autoren (Celan z.B.) in recht hohem Maße verstörend wirken. Der Kunstgriff sorgt hier dafür, dass Form und Inhalt einander in ...
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