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May 23, 2015 at 17:57 answer added hbarck timeline score: 2
May 22, 2015 at 20:40 comment added Matthias @Emanuel You can find Google Book links to such entries in my answer. Sorry for you - 4 out of 5 dictionaries I could find say it is angeblich.
May 22, 2015 at 20:31 answer added Matthias timeline score: 7
May 22, 2015 at 9:00 comment added Matthias @KilianFoth I'd like to see a proof for what you claim to be "obvious" - both for the hypothesis that the said groups switched earlier to stressing the first syllable in "angeblich", "ausführlich" etc. than the rest of the population and that their influence is strong enough to make the rest of the population change their pronunciation (it would seem more likely to me that they have an influence on wording).
May 21, 2015 at 20:56 answer added ihmels timeline score: 1
May 21, 2015 at 14:38 comment added Kilian Foth @Uwe Because it's obviously driven by journalists, politicians and managers who speak English every day and associate a perceived higher status with it (and overgeneralize, as usual with cross-language influences). Mis-stressing "massiv" after having pronounced "massive" a lot is not very different from saying "vital" (instead of "lebenswichtig") after having said "vital" in English a lot.
May 21, 2015 at 14:22 comment added Uwe @KilianFoth I think you're right that there is a trend towards shifting the stress to the first syllable, but how do you conclude that this is an influence from English? First of all, English adjectives are not always stressed on the first syllable (massive is, intellectual isn't), and second, the average German speaker doesn't even know where to put the stress in polysyllabic English words.
May 21, 2015 at 11:29 answer added Hubert Schölnast timeline score: 4
May 21, 2015 at 8:47 comment added Emanuel @Robert.. ah, jetzt macht's klick bei mir. Dieses gedehnte "angeblich" kenne ich auch, allerdings gibt es da trotzdem noch einen Akzent auf der zweiten Silbe.
May 21, 2015 at 6:34 comment added Kilian Foth Note that there is a currently strong trend towards stressing all adjektives on the first syllable even when traditionally they weren't (massiv, intellektuell, ausdrücklich, etc.). This is almost certainly an influence from English and likely to continue and strengthen, so asking which is 'right' is currently even less useful than usual.
May 21, 2015 at 4:55 history tweeted twitter.com/#!/StackGerman/status/601249862382923776
May 21, 2015 at 0:12 comment added Robert @Emanuel Ich hab das auch schon oft gehört, insbesondere, wenn jemand betonent will, dass es vielleicht nicht stimmt ("aaaangeblich gibt es da morgen Freibier")
May 20, 2015 at 22:57 history edited Jan CC BY-SA 3.0
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May 20, 2015 at 22:35 comment added Emanuel Maybe it's too much to ask but could you take a picture of such an entry? Because I find it really hard to believe... for angeblich it's just sooo not true and I'm not sure I would even understand it with a stress on "an". At least it would take me some time to process.
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May 20, 2015 at 21:36 history asked Nigel Lavender CC BY-SA 3.0