Timeline for What's the difference between "jedenfalls" and "auf jeden Fall"?
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| Jun 17, 2020 at 8:52 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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| Apr 9, 2013 at 8:06 | comment | added | Sentry | @Em1 I agree, the relating to something previous part wasn't that obvious to me. Maybe it's just that I usually don't use it in that context. | |
| Apr 9, 2013 at 7:28 | comment | added | Em1 | @Emanuel described already very precisely what's the matter is. I'd like to add that it seems you miss the important point in wiki's entry: "an Vorangegangenes anknüpfend" translated as "following something previous" loses the most significant fact. Jedenfalls, although being an adverb not a conjunction, has a special "connecting" feature. This feature basically is the reason why it cannot be just a filler. For that reason a previous context is necessary. "Die Mannschaft hat 0-5 verloren. Am Torwart jedenfalls lag es nicht." Do you see what significant sense jedenfalls conveys? | |
| Apr 9, 2013 at 0:32 | comment | added | Emanuel | I also have to say that they are more than filler to me. Why? Well, first of, anything that changes sentences structure, e.g. that counts as a valid position 1 can certainly not be a filler. Particles like schon or doch can't be position 1. That is one of their main features in fact. When a sentence starts with jedenfalls followed by the verb, that jedenfalls is NOT a filler. "Wie dem auch sei" is a filler, or "Naja". So whenever jedenfalls is followed by the verb it is not a filler. It may be hard to translate into one word. But it is not a filler. Not like the stuff they put in Twinkies | |
| Apr 8, 2013 at 23:42 | history | edited | Sentry | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
response to a comment, providing examples to support my answer.
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| Apr 8, 2013 at 23:09 | comment | added | Sentry | @EugeneSeidel Then why don't you enlighten us and give a correct answer? I looked it up and I don't agree with how it is described. The given example sentences would all work without the word "jedenfalls". | |
| Apr 8, 2013 at 19:39 | comment | added | Eugene Seidel | -1, please look up the meanings of "jedenfalls" in a dictionary, it surely is not only a stop-gap. | |
| Apr 8, 2013 at 19:35 | history | answered | Sentry | CC BY-SA 3.0 |