Timeline for Non-natives using strong verbs as they were weak: would this compromise understanding?
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| Jul 19, 2013 at 0:18 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackGerman/status/358017877728690176 | ||
| Jul 18, 2013 at 18:56 | vote | accept | martina.physics | ||
| Jul 18, 2013 at 15:50 | comment | added | äüö | I think non-natives can extend a language with words for things not already known by the natives, but it's not possible to change the very basics without fundamental social changes. | |
| Jul 18, 2013 at 15:37 | comment | added | martina.physics | @falkb talking about English, non-natives are contributing a lot, because they are probably more than the natives, considering that it is now the new lingua franca of the world. As for "wrong" or "right" usage, this is just something that evolves through time. But this is becoming a whole new question, about Linguistics in general. | |
| Jul 18, 2013 at 15:33 | comment | added | äüö | @martina: not sure what you mean with "regularization of verbs" and where you wanna go to but a language never contributes the non-natives and there is no acceptance of wrong usage, maybe except rare changes like "Sinn machen" which is influenced by AE, and that is not to attract the non-natives. | |
| Jul 18, 2013 at 15:16 | comment | added | martina.physics | @falkb a lot of things, namely when and how the regularization of verbs happen in a language, whether the contribution of non-natives is fundamental... | |
| Jul 18, 2013 at 15:12 | comment | added | äüö | @martina: What is still not precise enough? | |
| Jul 18, 2013 at 15:02 | comment | added | martina.physics | @EugeneSeidel Well, yes. It's something I'm doing scientific research on so I still don't have a precise answer (as for now). In any case, this is something that may happen to non-natives for verbs they don't know as well as to an ordinary native for a verb they've never (or scarcely) heard in their life. I wouldn't relate this to kids. | |
| Jul 18, 2013 at 14:55 | comment | added | Eugene Seidel | something that in English happens all the time You sure? "Mom! Mom! Joey hurted me!" Okay, a pre-schooler can get away with it. Everybody else, though... | |
| Jul 18, 2013 at 14:49 | comment | added | äüö |
@bouscher: you mean things like Du nix verstehen? Aber ich sprechen nix mehr schnell jetzt., right? Yes, that's terrible.
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| Jul 18, 2013 at 14:31 | answer | added | äüö | timeline score: 8 | |
| Jul 18, 2013 at 14:28 | comment | added | bouscher | It wouldn't affect comprehension, but, being myself German, I think it is safe to say that many Germans tend to patronize people making this kind of mistake and, what's even worse, instead of giving corrective feedback, they sometimes use the same incorrect forms, believing to make themselves more understandable. | |
| Jul 18, 2013 at 14:16 | history | asked | martina.physics | CC BY-SA 3.0 |