2

From a text I am reading:

Wer sich für Aktien interessiert, der behält den DAX genau im Auge.

Isn't this incorrect and shouldn't this be written

Wer sich für Aktien interessiert, behält der den DAX genau im Auge.?

Dartmouth Dept. of German states: "'wer' can be used only in the sense of 'he who' or 'whoever' - this is not technically a relative pronoun, since it has no antecedent; rather the whole clause in which it occurs occupies the position of a subject or an object." And then they provide examples in which the verb is in the second position, following the relative clause. This is the rule I understood to be standard. https://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/WordOrder/relatives.html

4
  • 2
    Welcome Michael. The sentence ist perfectly fine. Why do you think it wouldn't be correct? Right now the answer to your question is just: No! ;)
    – Olafant
    Commented Apr 20, 2020 at 4:57
  • Does this answer your question? Why is the verb not in second position
    – guidot
    Commented Apr 20, 2020 at 7:14
  • "Why is the verb not in second position" does not answer my question because the grammar involved is too different (at least for me).
    – Michael
    Commented Apr 20, 2020 at 13:38
  • "Wer Yoda-Deutsch spricht, der Sätze nach dieser Wortfolge bilden kann."
    – hajef
    Commented Apr 20, 2020 at 15:43

3 Answers 3

2

You are right to say that a main clause following the subordinate clause will have the verb at position 1:

Wenn noch Zeit ist, gehen wir spazieren.

Wer Deutscher ist, weiß das.

In some cases however, you can begin postpositioned main clauses by a sort of correlate responding to the w-word of the subordinate clause and referring back to its contents:

Wenn noch Zeit ist, dann gehen wir spazieren.

Wer Deutscher ist, der weiß das.

Similarly, you can say

Ob ich wirklich komme, (das) weiß ich heute noch nicht.

Wann ich Feierabend mache, (das) ist allein meine Entscheidung.

This type of correlate has to be at/on (?) position 1 of the following main clause, otherwise you would have, as Kilian said, a question (your second example) or an impossible structure of two subordinate clauses (your third example).

Other examples:

Wo heute ein Supermarkt steht, (da) war letztes Jahr noch eine Wiese.

Wem das Buch gehört, dem musst du es auch zurückgeben.

And with a leading main clause:

Das ging alles so schnell, dass ich die Hälfte vergessen habe.

Die Epidemie ist so gekommen, wie die Experten es vorausgesagt hatten.

There are many other structures containing correlates, e.g. two-part connectors like zwar - aber or einerseits - andererseits. They connect two main clauses, though.

1
  • 1
    This is the insight I needed. Thank you.
    – Michael
    Commented Apr 20, 2020 at 13:53
0

In my opinion the sentence is fine as it is. A link to the full text may help to understand your concerns. The first alternative is wrong, while the 2nd sounds outdated.

2
  • 1
    Welcome to German.SE. Do you think it could be helpful to write why you think the sentence is fine? I understand the difficulty because further context is missing, so it is hard to talk about most relevant point. Just a question. Commented Apr 20, 2020 at 5:51
  • @ShegitBrahm: I am not a grammar expert, but a native German speaker - it looks like Michael is not a native speaker but I will extend my answer.
    – Furty
    Commented Apr 20, 2020 at 5:59
0

The sentence is fine as it stands. The part before the comma is a relative clause, and the part behind the comma is the main clause, and the main clause has plain vanilla SVO order.

Your second example has VSO order, which would be fine in a question, but not in a main clause.

Your third example has SOV order, which is is fine in a subclause, but again, this is a main clause and has to follow main clause rules.

Perhaps things are complicated by the fact that the construction you show can also use the relative clause as a subject:

Wer sich für Aktien interessiert, behält den DAX genau im Auge.

This is also fine, since the entire relative clause counts as the S in SVO, but admittedly this is confusing for learners of German.

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service and acknowledge you have read our privacy policy.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.